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The need to revise that article doesn't have to do with its correctness. The reason stated in the to-be-rewritten notice speaks for itself - the article is visually not quite yet up-to-standards, because it has no headings nor citations. (If all information there is from a film, rather than from books, and you need to quote the film in the article to back up some fact, learn how to use the wiki's quote template). I have no argument with your details about where this troll or that orc army came from; you seem to have it figured out.

Lastly, proofread your edits every time you make an edit to a page. You misspell many things.

HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 05:39, September 25, 2017 (UTC)

Gram Orcs update

Make a defense if you wish. HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 20:12, March 8, 2018 (UTC)


Thanks for understanding. And no, Mordor Orcs will not be deleted, since it is reasonable to distinguish them categoricaly from othrs such as goblins and true Uruks. HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 23:27, March 9, 2018 (UTC)

Being Morgoth's lieutenant, doesn't mean dragons are included. So stop this, or I'll report to the admin.Oxlord (talk) 09:22, April 21, 2018 (UTC)

It's irrelevant. Not all answer to Sauron. Servants of Morgoths are servants of Morgoth. Don't change the subject.  I am going to undone every irrelevant thing. Take heed : This is the last warning. Let it go or I'll report to the admin.Oxlord (talk) 09:29, April 21, 2018 (UTC)

I am not  threatening you. I am just only reminding you about the rules of editing. The editing war is unacceptable . And if it keep happening, the pages will be protected by admins and those started the war will have record. We will hear from the admin about this. For now, the pages you edited must be undone. Thank youOxlord (talk) 09:41, April 21, 2018 (UTC)


Servants of Sauron are characters who must have taken orders from him anywhere in the canon. If Glaurung and Sauron never interact in the books, then there must be no speculation that Sauron might have had authority over him.  Since this wiki is an encyclopedia, it's unnecessary to think too hard about the what-if's.   Thanks for asking. HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 23:15, April 21, 2018 (UTC)

No more.Oxlord (talk) 08:06, April 30, 2018 (UTC)


Where did you learn that Uglúk served Sauron? HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 23:48, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Yes. All categories that do not have the words "Non-canon" in them are canonical. So he doesn't belong under Servants of Sauron. Saruman wanted the Ring for himself; he was Sauron's puppet without knowing it. HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 19:26, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Sauron's fortress and strongholds

Makes sense, so sure. HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 02:13, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

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