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Mae govannen, ArwenUdomiel!

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It would help some of us to know how you discovered this site. Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! HiddenVale (talk) 18:46, July 30, 2019 (UTC)



Hello! Unfortunately no, there isn't, at least not on the wiki. The easiest option for that is to use Pages, Microsoft Word, WordPad, or NotePad on your computer, and write up any text there that you're planning to use on an article . HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 22:23, August 1, 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for your help with the Zimrahin article; in the future, please note that we normally only link a name once, when it first appears. You did nothing wrong, but it helps to preserve the article's orderly appearance. Thanks!

--Bitterhand (talk) 22:16, September 15, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Infoboxes

Go ahead and use the LOTR Location infobox; as you have probably guessed, that one should be used for locations which appear as more than a mention in the three LotR books. The Blackroot Vale is, of course, where Aragorn summoned the Dead, and as such tangibly appears in the series.

Also, thanks for working on the TG/WP removal project! That remains one of the biggest issues here.


--Bitterhand (talk) 17:07, October 19, 2019 (UTC)

Wiki work

Hi ArwenUdomiel,

Thank you very much for your suggestion!

Just found some dwarf pages that need to be rewritten so I decided to work on those for the time being. Always had a secret interest in the dwarf race, especially that of Erebor and Belegost. I will have a look at the stubs page to see if there is anything I can work on as well.

Thanks again and I hope you have a great day.

Kind Regards, --TheWanderingRanger (Not all those who wander are lost) 10:48, November 9, 2019 (UTC)


Yes! For citing the Index, just put 

The Silmarillion, Index

Also, look closely at how I edited the Etymology section of that, just now. When stating individual Elvish words, put them in italics, and when giving their English translation, put them in single quotes 'like this'.

Thus for example,

Angband is of the Sindarin words ang, meaning 'iron', and band, meaning 'prison'.

HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 03:01, November 22, 2019 (UTC)


Yes! You'll just give the URL, within the reference tags. See the last section of the References Guide. HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 06:25, December 5, 2019 (UTC)


Ideally, it should be added for pages short enough that you don't need to scroll down on them. "_NOTOC_" makes the Table of Contents not appear. HiddenVale - HV logo TalkPage 21:31, December 22, 2019 (UTC)


why you edited the board of prince Artamir??? Darksoldier1187 (talk) 14:33, January 6, 2020 (UTC)

Hello arwen. Well the change of the article was a good idea but i think that we should keep the information board, you know for more information about artamir. Btw if you are new to this wiki welcome!  Darksoldier1187 (talk) 10:47, January 7, 2020 (UTC)

ok arwen thank you! (i dont know if you checked the board i edited some months ago because i edited with the only known information about artamir that it existed on the internet) and yeah welcome Darksoldier1187 (talk) 19:40, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

btw do you think that we should remove the stub category in the Seregond location because it is expanded far good?

Ok good job! because when i last checked seregost (2-3 days ago) it was still in the stub category. By the way check Golasgil because some months ago there were some photos of golasgil from the movie but now they are removed. Should we add them back or not?Darksoldier1187 (talk) 13:00, January 10, 2020 (UTC)

hmm i've seen that pictue in other sites and they claimed that it wa golasgil. To be honest i dont know what to believe. have a nice day too Darksoldier1187 (talk) 12:02, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Anna Lee drawing

Hello! I would indeed be happy to grant your request, however, for some reason only administrators can rename files. I may get promoted someday, but until then I'm sure HiddenVale would be more than happy to help you out.

Have a great day,

--Bitterhand (talk) 15:18, January 28, 2020 (UTC)


hello I would like for you to add me on here 

I'm erica 

Erica, I do not understand what you mean by adding you on to here. Can you please explain? When leaving a message on someone's talk page, please sign with four tildes. This will leave a link to your talk page where I can contact you. Thanks! ArwenUdomiel (talk) 23:55, February 13, 2020 (UTC)



Thank you for responding and editing the corrections I identified on the Gandalf page. I just wanted to let you know that I am not able to edit that page, however. Which is okay, of course; I completely understand that not just anyone can edit those important pages. Just wanted to let you know in case the security settings turned out to be something other than you believed them to be.


BackThomas (talk) 22:31, February 28, 2020 (UTC)BackThomas

Nice Username :)

Random question... I just noticed that your username is spelled "Udomiel" instead of "Undomiel." Was that done purposefully? :D

ARoyalPrincess (talk) 01:15, March 4, 2020 (UTC)

RE: Missing discussion post

I'm afraid I'm not sure what happened to your post... it could have been a technical error, or it may have been deleted by an administrator, as our agreed-on policy is that the forum should be limited to discussion (strictly-speaking) and news.

Personally I don't have a problem with 'Happy Birthday' posts, since they seem to fall under news, but another admin may have interpreted it differently. If it happens again, I'll talk to HV and see if he knows what might be going on.

You as well!

--Bitterhand (talk) 01:45, March 7, 2020 (UTC)

Re: List of peoples content

Any race or division of beings that can be considered to be sapient and naturally multiply should be included on that list; i.e. the Eagles can easily be seen to speak intelligently and have a clear organization, and thus should be included. Any unintelligent creatures or animals should, by extension, not be on the list. Creatures such as werewolves and vampires should be excluded as well, since they are implied to be unique creations of Morgoth and not species of their own, strictly speaking. Also, go ahead and leave hobbit families off the list, since we already have a separate list for them.

Thanks for your work, and the well wishes! Let me know if any of this doesn't make sense.

--Bitterhand (talk) 00:31, April 17, 2020 (UTC)

At this point, we're really discussing which species can be considered "people" or not, according to the title of the article. I'm not aware of any place where Tolkien defined what exactly he considered to be "people", which would by virtue be our definition as well, so this is my educated opinion. Trolls should be excluded, since they are said to be made by Morgoth, and are presented as monsters without much intelligence. The first orcs, however, were evidently elves mutilated by Morgoth, and can be seen to have significant intelligence and organization even when not ruled by Sauron, as seen in the denizens of Goblin-town. Thus, orcs should be included. Any subdivisions of men, elves, orcs, or others (excepting Hobbit families) should be left in, since the description allows for factions and nations.

Hope this is clear, and helpful!

--Bitterhand (talk) 01:05, April 18, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Duplicate discussion post

Of course! I deleted the one with fewer upvotes. By the way, I recently acquired the same edition of the Great Tales as you pictured and have been quite satisfied with them.


--Bitterhand (talk) 00:49, July 3, 2020 (UTC)

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