Citation for this as a title please?Edit
In The Lord of the Rings Tolkien gives Thranduil's title as King of the Elves of Northern Mirkwood. Where did Tolkien use King of the Woodland Realm as his title? - Gradivus, 06:14, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
- Good point but what do we do about previous rulers such as before Thranduil when his father Oropher ruled the Wood-elves of Greenwood, before Sauron despoiled it with Dol Guldur? Have two titles? Two realms? How about the new title be Elven Realm of Northern Mirkwood but what of the past combine them perhaps? However, you might be right since Mirkwood is the acceptable name of the forest not what it was in the distant past. I'll support it with the appropriate merging style.--DarkLantern (talk) 06:54, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
- I've been researching this and editing since I asked the question, and in fact since removed it. At the beginning of the Third Age Thranduil was indeed "King of the Woodland Realm" (the Woodland Realm including all of Greenwood the Great). But as the Third Age wore on Greenwood darkened and became Mirkwood, and Thranduil's kingdom retreated to northern Mirkwood. So by the end of the Third Age Thranduil could be referred to only as he was in The Lord of the Rings, "King of the Elves of Northern Mirkwood." So both titles are correct, the first at the beginning of the Third Age and the second at its end. So we should use both titles. We should not change the second one, because that's the title Tolkien gave him as having in The Lord of the Rings. I've edited one or two pages (including Thranduil) to reflect that. - Gradivus, 07:16, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
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