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I'll leave the voting open for at least one more week to encourage others to vote, see who else will show up, and to perhaps discover others that could be merged. Please do not procede with a merge of any of these articles yet until I conclude things.

It has come to my attention that there are several articles here that are under different names but are essentially the same thing, but should be merged into one article under one name. But which name should it be? So I am gathering votes for the merging of such articles and under what name they should be under. After all votes are counted, I will close matters and draw-up a set of guidelines and the articles can then be merged.

The articles in question are as follows:

1. The name of the decisive battle that concluded the War of the Dwarves and Orcs:

The Battle of Azanulbizar or the Battle of Nanduhirion?. When or if this article is merged under which name should it be? I vote the Battle of Azanulbizar because it was a dwarven war fought by dwarves only against the orcs.DarkLantern 12:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I would have to say we put it under Battle of Azanulbizar. That is what it is better known as. User:Uldor

I vote Battle of Azanulbizar. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I would say it should be Battle of Azanulbizar - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

2. The name of the Numenoreans that remained loyal to the Valar and stayed friends with the Elves:

The Elendili or The Faithful? When or if this article is merged under which name should it be? I vote The Faithful since that was what they were commonly refered to in The Silmarillion.DarkLantern 12:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. The Faithful is better. User:Uldor

I vote The Faithful. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Faithful - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

3. The name of Eärendil's ship.

Vingilótë or Vingilot. When or if this article is merged under which name should it be? I vote Vingilot because that was what it was commonly refered to in The Silmarillion.DarkLantern 12:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. That is what it is usually called in the Silmarillion. User:Uldor

I say use the full name Vingilótë. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

4. The Battle at the Black Gate. Merge with the Battle of the Morannon?

I vote yes.--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote:Yes--^{Odysseas-Spartan}53 19:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes, but I think it should be named Battle at the Black Gate because that is what people know best. --Nognix 21:58, 25 may 2009 (UTC)

I vote Yes. I like the Battle of the Morannon. User:Uldor

Yes, I prefer Battle of the Morannon - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

5. Laketown and Esgaroth merged into one article. Which name?

I vote yes they should be merged under the name of Esgaroth--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I think I'm going to go with the more common name "Laketown" as it was in the book.

I'm changing my vote to Laketown.--DarkLantern 02:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I vote for Laketown thats the more common reference. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote:Yes. With the name Esgaroth.--^{Odysseas-Spartan}53 19:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote Yes. I like Esgaroth. That is the official name. User:Uldor

Yes, I think it should be to Laketown as that is how it is referred to most - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

6. Noldoli merged with the Noldor article?

I vote yes it should be merged.--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. User:Uldor

I vote yes.--Serrious 02:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

7. Scale merged with the Smaug article?

I vote yes it should be merged.--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote: No, other dragons have scales as well. I think it's like merging "horse" with "rohirrim". The scales are a part of Smaug but also of Ancaligon or Glaurung. --Nognix 22:01, 25 may 2009 (UTC)

I vote no. I agree that that is like merging horse with Rohirrim. User:Uldor

True the all the other dragons have scales , but in the article it is talking about Smaug's so if it isnt to be merged with smaug perhaps it should be re-written if it is that important stating that all dragons have scales. Just a thought.--Serrious 02:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

If some one thinks that it is with in the scope of this wiki to have a generic article on Scales then this article needs to be rewritten to encompass that. However, I feel that an article on Scales is out side of the focus of this wiki, and since the only thing that links to Scale is a redirect from Scale (zoology), and that only has a link form the article Smaug, the link on the Smaug article should be redirected to Wikipedia and both Scale and Scale (zoology) should be deleted. - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

8. White City merged with Minas Tirith?

I vote yes.--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote:Yes--^{Odysseas-Spartan}53 19:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes --Nognix 22:05, 15 may 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. User:Uldor

Yes - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Snakezero 19:23, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

9. Three Houses of Men merged with the Edain?

I vote yes.--DarkLantern 16:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. --Rawn 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes. User:Uldor

Vote:Yes --Nognix 22:01, 25 may 2009 (UTC)

10. (Sorry for this little edit but I noticed some as well) Should Gondor Tower Guards and Guard of the Fountain Court and Guards of the Citadel be merged? --Nognix 17:00, 26 may 2009

That sounds Ok. I vote yes.--DarkLantern 15:31, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

11. The merging of Morannon with the Black Gate under the name of the Black Gate.

I vote yes. The Black Gate is the common name.--DarkLantern 18:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

VOTE:YES under the name Black Gate--^{Odysseas-Spartan}53 08:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes they should be merged, but I'm not sure under which name - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

12. The merging of Mumak and Mumakil. into one article under the name "Mumakil", besides there is an error in the Mumakil; it has a period ([.]) in it and that should be fixed anyway.

I vote yes for Mumakil.--DarkLantern 06:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes Mumakil - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes Mumakil - Nognix 16:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

13. The merging of the Ainu and Ainur into just "Ainur".

I vote yes. Why have two separate articles based solely on their singular and plural uses.?--DarkLantern 06:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes - Razor77 03:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes - Nognix 16:47, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

14. Another administrator has suggested the merging of Smeagol with Gollum.

I agree, after all that is what he is generally known as and what he has been most of his life.--DarkLantern 02:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes - Nognix 16:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Since I suggested it, I vote Yes - Razor77 14:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

15. The merging of the Laiquendi and the Green-elves into one article under which name?

I vote yes, under the name Laiquendi.--DarkLantern 02:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Vote: Yes under the name Laequendi because all the other articles about elves have these names. You can make redirects with: Green-elves, Sea-elves, ... to the pages about elves by using the information here, kindreds of elves.

Yes under Laiquendi - Razor77 14:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

16. The merging of these three articles into one:

Under what name?

I vote the general title of Rivers of Gondor.--DarkLantern 15:12, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I also like the title of Rivers of Gondor - Razor77 14:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

17. The merging of Corsairs and Corsairs of Umbar into one article.

Under which name?

I vote for the Corsairs of Umbar?--DarkLantern 11:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merging to Corsairs of Umbar - Razor77 13:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

18. The merging of List of Middle-earth characters and List of characters.

Under which name?

I vote for the List of characters but done in the style of the List of Middle-earth characters, that horizontal-like style.--DarkLantern 11:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merging to List of characters. Also I would suggest that we update the organization of the links. Primarily this would mean any character with two names be aphabetized by their last name - Razor77 13:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

19. The merging of Artano into Sauron

Yes, this is another name that Sauron went by and should just be part of the main article. - Razor77 19:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I vote yes it should be merged with Sauron.--DarkLantern 20:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

20. The merging of Harondor and Southern Gondor into one article. Under which name?

I vote Yes it should be merged under the name Southern Gondor.--DarkLantern 19:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, merge to Southern Gondor - Razor77 16:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

21. The merging of Ekkaia and Vaiya into one article. Under which name?

I vote Yes it should be merged under the name Ekkaia thats the common name for the Encircling Sea surrounding Arda.--DarkLantern 19:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Ekkaia seems appropriate - Razor77 16:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

22. The merging of The Free and Corrupted Races of Middle-earth, Races of Middle-earth, and Peoples. Under which name?

I vote Yes. Under the name The Free and Corrupted Races of Arda.--DarkLantern 01:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I think that I prefer the name to be Races of Middle-earth. Also I think that the final style of the page should be similar to what is currently used by the Peoples page. - Razor77 02:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

23. The merging of Minas Tirith (First Age) & Tol-in-Gaurhoth but keeping it known as Minas Tirith (First Age).

I vote Yes that is what it was orignally known as under Finrod & Orodreth.--DarkLantern 14:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Minas Tirith (First Age) looks to be the best name for the article. - Razor77 21:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

24. The merging of Morthond and Blackroot into one article. Under which name?

I vote Yes under the name Morthond.--DarkLantern 00:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, under Morthond - Razor77 01:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

25. The merging of Mundburg (The Rohirric a name for Minas Tirith) with Minas Tirith.

I vote Yes.--DarkLantern 00:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)