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Merges in question[]
The Lord of the Rings MMO game in development and Cancelled Lord of the Rings MMO[]
We don’t need two pages for two mmos planned by the same company. It is likely that development on the second started soon after the cancellation of the first. I believe that they should be merged into a page about Amazon’s attempts to make a “The Lord of the Rings MMO” game. A possible title for such a page could be "The Lord of the Rings MMORPG (Amazon Games)".Drour1234 (talk) 04:53, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
Merges settled/denied[]
Folcred with Fastred[]
The other twins have all had their pages merged, given that Tolkien doesn't write much about the two I don't see any reason for them to have separate pages? Gondorian2012 (talk) 00:09, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Actually I'd like to see all the "combo" articles about two people separated. Even if there isn't much unique information about each individual, database integrity and organization is important too. For instance, Fastred has his own image, but not Folcred. Also - how many hordes of virtually name-only hobbit articles do we have? It's no trouble to leave the twins separate. Bitterhand (talk) 17:53, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Building on this, I agree that "combo" articles would look better "separated". I am curious as to why separating these types of articles hasn't happened yet. Were there second thoughts on this? Or was this task of separation simply not done yet?Drour1234 (talk) 19:35, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Uruk-hai scouts to Isengarders[]
I believe that the conjectural Uruk-hai scouts page should be merged onto the officially named Isengarders page. Uglúk’s group of Uruk hai make up a sizable portion of the Uruk-hai of Isengard. I do not see why they need a separate page when all that can be said about them can go on the Isengarders page.Drour1234 (talk) 17:21, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- So this merge was denied? The pages in question are still separate. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 1 Nov 2025 4:01 PM Pacific
Feys to Fays[]
I believe that the Feys page should be moved onto the officially named Fays page. Tolkien only ever used the spelling with an “a”. He never used the spelling with an “e”.Drour1234 (talk) 23:55, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
Mahud with Mûmakil Mahûd[]
Although one is about the individual and the other about the Mûmak riders as a whole, both are non-canon and should be combined into one article detailing the profession and the individual. Gondorian2012 (talk) 22:34, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Mahud deleted - quite an obscure non-canon term. Bitterhand (talk) 17:54, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Angerthas with Dwarf Runes[]
Essentially the same thing. Gondorian2012 (talk) 13:41, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Merged. Bitterhand (talk) 17:53, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Brithombar and Eglarest into Havens of the Falas[]
Rather than delete the Havens page, to avoid duplication it would be better if the Brithombar and Eglarest pages are given new sections on the Havens page and their own pages turned into redirects? Gondorian2012 (talk) 16:05, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
This action would diverge from our usual protocol with location pages: we have an individual article for every individual named canon-location, even if another location (Havens of the Falas in this case) easily supersedes two particular locations. Now, if the two particular ones were actually the same place, more synonymous than Dol Guldur & Amon Lanc, then we'd merge them into one page. But since Brith. and Eglarest were distinct havens founded a good distance apart, the separateness of their pages honors that. HiddenVale -
TalkPage 20:00, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Amon Lanc into Dol Guldur[]
The same place, a clear example of unnecessary duplication. Gondorian2012 (talk) 19:46, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
Since Amon Lanc had been the capital during Oropher's reign, it had a pre-Dol-Guldur identity, and therefore the topic of Amon Lanc is not "eclipsed" by Dol Guldur. It is a hill which happened to bear Sauron's stronghold (which was temporary too). HiddenVale -
TalkPage 02:06, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Gwathló and Greyflood[]
The same river. Gondorian2012 (talk) 01:01, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Indeed - they have been merged. Not sure why that took so long to notice! Bitterhand (talk) 02:31, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Royal Guard of Rohan with King's Riders[]
Basically the same subject. I suspect that King's Rider's is the more canonical term, although I'm not entirely sure.Gondorian2012 (talk) 14:33, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
"Royal Guard" deleted - no unique information, and the term is not found in Tolkien's works. Bitterhand (talk) 16:22, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
First Sack of Doriath & Battle of the Thousand Caves[]
These two articles are substantially about the same thing. The Battle was an intrinsic part of the Sack, therefore these two articles should be merged.Gondorian2012 (talk) 10:21, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Merged; neither article had an official title anyways. Bitterhand (talk) 17:11, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Dernhelm into Éowyn[]
Given that Dernhelm and Éowyn are one and the same there's not much point to them having separate pages, provided there is sufficient information on the alias on Éowyn's page. Gondorian2012 (talk) 15:05, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Merged. HiddenVale -
TalkPage 23:22, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Colony of Balin and Re-colonization of Moria[]
These articles are virtually identical, should be merged. Gondorian2012 (talk) 14:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Agree. Elanor of Gondolin (talk) 18:48, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Merged. One redirects to the other. HiddenVale -
TalkPage 22:30, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Battles of the Fords of Isen[]
This page mostly repeats information found on the two pages, First Battle of the Fords of Isen & Second Battle of the Fords of Isen. I propose that the above page's content be merged into those two pages and be replaced with a disambiguation page linking to the two battles.Gondorian2012 (talk) 15:52, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Agree. Elanor of Gondolin (talk) 02:37, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Merged. HiddenVale -
TalkPage 15:16, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Shire Calendar[]
The content is essentially the same as the page Shire Reckoning and given that Tolkien used the term Shire Reckoning primarily, the Calendar article should merge into the Reckoning page. Gondorian2012 (talk) 23:40, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Agree. Elanor of Gondolin (talk) 02:37, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Merged. Bitterhand (talk) 18:07, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Narchost and Carchost[]
There's already a page for Towers of the Teeth and there's so little information for each page that it makes sense to either merge them into the Towers of the Teeth page or delete them altogether. Gondorian2012 (talk) 18:58, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Done. HiddenVale -
TalkPage 20:49, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Lord of the Dúnedain[]
As far as I can remember this title was only used by Aragorn when talking to Arwen. As it's synonymous with Chieftain of the Dúnedain it should be merged with that page.Gondorian2012 (talk) 07:50, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
The two are obviously synonymous, so yes. Now redirects to Chieftain of the Dúnedain. Bitterhand (talk) 16:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Dor Daidelos and Dor Daedeloth[]
As far as I can tell, Dor Daidelos is simply an earlier name for Dor Daedeloth, appearing only in the History of Middle-earth. Additionally, only the latter name is used in The Silmarillion. I say merge, keeping the distinction clear in the 'Earlier forms of the legendarium' section. --Bitterhand (talk) 03:44, January 27, 2020 (UTC)
Former now redirects to the latter. HiddenVale -
TalkPage, May 19, 2020 (UTC)
Concerning Hobbits (soundtrack) and Concerning Hobbits[]
The content of these two articles both cover the second soundtrack for The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. The second article is more detailed in the first so I feel that the first article can probably be deleted. Thanks! ArwenUdomiel (talk)
This an easy, and obvious, call. All content from the latter has been moved to the former, and redirects there as well. --Bitterhand (talk) 01:53, May 20, 2020 (UTC)
Durin VII and Dwarves named "Durin"[]
As long as we're going to include all the previous Durins in one article, we should be consistent; the latter article actually already includes Durin VII. For the sake of encyclopedic accessibility, I'd be in favor of giving each their own article, but that's perhaps another discussion. --Bitterhand (talk) 18:20, June 11, 2019 (UTC)
"Durin VII" now redirects to the latter article. --Bitterhand (talk) 02:52, July 11, 2019 (UTC)
Badgers and Middle-earth animals with List of animals[]
Same reason as the other animals in the list; these are mentioned in passing and also not unique to Middle-earth. Merge. Bitterhand (talk) 16:20, August 1, 2018 (UTC)
The first two articles now redirect to the latter. --Bitterhand (talk) 02:52, July 11, 2019 (UTC)
Thranduil's elk and Thranduil's Second Elk[]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never read or seen anything implying these are different elk. The coloration does appear to be different between the first and third Hobbit films, but I always took it to be the same elk becoming grayer as it aged. Any other thoughts? --Bitterhand (talk) 00:53, September 5, 2018 (UTC)
Latter redirects to former. HiddenVale -
TalkPage, July 8th, 2019 (UTC)
Elendilmir and Star of Elendil[]
It's obvious, even in the articles, that these are the same object. Merge. --Bitterhand (talk) 18:20, June 11, 2019 (UTC)
Merged. HiddenVale -
TalkPage, July 8th, 2019 (UTC)
Alfirin and Simbelmynë[]
These are the same flower; simply what Elves and Men called it, respectively. Merge. --Bitterhand (talk) 01:36, March 17, 2019 (UTC)
Articles merged. --Bitterhand (talk) 18:20, June 11, 2019 (UTC)
East Sea and Eastern Seas[]
Eastern Seas is exactly the same as the East Sea, in fact there is only one East Sea. These two articles describe the same thing. Eastern Seas can be deleted or merged with East Sea, as East Sea is much more in depth.
--LonelyHorse9 (talk) 10:33, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
Agreed, these are the same thing. Merge. --Bitterhand (talk) 20:09, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
Eastern Seas now redirects to the other. --HiddenVale, March 16, 2019
Battle in Dale and Siege of Dale[]
These articles also are describing the same thing; though I'm not sure which title would be more appropriate. Merge. --Bitterhand (talk) 22:19, December 3, 2018 (UTC)
"Battle in Dale" deleted, as it was a duplicate of the latter article. --Bitterhand (talk) 20:09, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
Daggers of Westernesse and Barrow-blades[]
These articles are simply two different ways of referring to the same specific weapons. They are Daggers of Westernesse because of their origin, but referred to as Barrow-blades after their taking from the barrow-wight. In any case these articles describe the same objects; merge. --Bitterhand (talk) 02:35, December 3, 2018 (UTC)
Articles have been merged. --Bitterhand (talk) 14:59, January 10, 2019 (UTC)
Skirmish in Cirith Ungol and Battle of Cirith Ungol[]
These two articles seem to talk about the same thing. I think that they should be merged.
——SamtheHobbitoftheShire
Agreed, these are describing the same event. Merge. --Bitterhand (talk) 23:00, October 1, 2018 (UTC)
Merged. HiddenVale -
TalkPage 02:50, October 2, 2018 (UTC)
Houses of the Dead and Hallows[]
I believe these are simply different names for the same place; not sure which should take precedence. Merge. --Bitterhand (talk) 01:28, August 3, 2018 (UTC)
Merged; Hallows deleted. HiddenVale -
TalkPage September 4, 2018 (UTC)
Beer and Common Beverages in Middle Earth[]
Operating under the assumption that beer is, in fact, a common beverage in Middle-earth, and not Middle Earth. -- 00:53, September 5, 2018 (UTC)
Both have been deleted, for reasons given. HiddenVale -
TalkPage September 4, 2018 (UTC)
King's Men and Black Númenórean[]
My reasoning for suggesting this is that the Black Numenoreans are a direct continuation of the King's Men. As it says in the article itself, the remaining King's Men began to be called the Black Numenoreans after Sauron returned to Mordor. There's no fundamental difference between the two except the names. Also, the title "Black Numenoreans" was given to these men directly because of what they had done and believed in Numenor. I believe we should merge these under Black Númenórean and clarify they were known by a different name in earlier history. Bitterhand (talk) 15:29, August 7, 2018 (UTC)
Merged and redirected. HiddenVale -
TalkPage August 7, 2018 (UTC)
Eärnur and Mordirith[]
It seems the precedent here is to have a single page for each character, even if they significantly change over time. For example, we don't have separate pages for Carthaen and Karsh, or Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White. Granted, those examples are either both canon or both non-canon, whereas Mordirith is a non-canon version of Eärnur, but I still think we should merge Mordirith into the portrayal in adaptations section of Eärnur to be consistent. --Bitterhand (talk) 01:28, August 3, 2018 (UTC)
Merged; Mordirith redirected to Eärnur. HiddenVale -
TalkPage August 2, 2018 (UTC)
Isumbras Took III and Isumbras III[]
Another pretty straightforward case; these are the same person. Merge. --Bitterhand (talk) 02:46, July 13, 2018 (UTC)
Isumbras III deleted. HiddenVale -
TalkPage July 13, 2018 (UTC)
Mordor Attack Troll, Morgul Attack Troll, and Attack Troll into Olog-hai[]
Regardless of whether or not the first two are actually different kinds of troll (I'm of the opinion they aren't), the contents of all three articles are describing the "shock troop" trolls that break through the gates of Minas Tirith in the Return of the King film. These articles, besides being poorly written, contradict each other in whether or not the trolls at Minas Tirith are the same ones at the Black Gate. All three claim to be Olog-hai, so I believe they should be merged into that article under the portrayal in adaptations section. In any case, I don't see why we should have different pages for trolls that aren't even known to be fundamentally different from each other. I'd also be supportive of merging Guldur War Troll and Guldur Olog-Hai into the Olog-hai article for the same reasons mentioned above. I'm not even sure if some of these were even ever mentioned to be Olog-hai, but something at least should be done, even if it's just renaming. --Bitterhand (talk) 16:29, July 5, 2018 (UTC)
The first two have been deleted; I've created redirects of them that lead to Attack Troll, which gets to remain since it refers to a specific type of troll that consistently is portrayed in a couple adaptations. The Guldur War Troll page has been "merged" into Guldur Olog-hai and deleted. The pictures these pages have are contradictory, and I don't care to see whether the articles' distinct titles are based off of anything official. It is indeed best for them to not be separate articles, or they cause categorical ambiguity. HiddenVale -
TalkPage July 5, 2018 (UTC)
Orc Berserker and Bolg's Bodyguards[]
Orc Berserkers were intended to be the Bodyguard of Bolg in the film (per the Hobbit film art and design guides), and should be merged into that article under portrayal in adaptations. Bitterhand (talk) 16:24, July 17, 2018 (UTC)
Merged. HiddenVale -
TalkPage July 17, 2018 (UTC)
Gandalf's Fireworks and Gandalf's Fireworks[]
Pretty self-explanatory; not sure how there got to be two pages. For some reason, though, it seems you have to search for the other page, as only one of them shows up in the drop-down selection on the search bar. --Bitterhand (talk) 01:12, June 26, 2018 (UTC)
Mystery finally solved; short article has been deleted. HiddenVale -
TalkPage July 5, 2018 (UTC)
Movie vs. Book: Fellowship of the Ring and Movie vs. Book:Two Towers and Movie vs. Book: The Return of the King[]
Similar case to the above. Merge. --Bitterhand (talk) 00:41, July 4, 2018 (UTC)
Finally merged, into three new sections at Differences Between Jackson's Movies and Tolkien's Books. HiddenVale -
TalkPage July 3, 2018 (UTC)
The Books and Tolkien[]
To be honest, I'm not sure what page this should be merged into, but whoever left the merge notice put in Tolkien, so I'll put it here. Something at least should be done here, probably merge. --Bitterhand (talk) 00:41, July 4, 2018 (UTC)
The Books has been deleted. No information there was exclusive to it. HiddenVale -
TalkPage July 3, 2018 (UTC)
Elven armory and Elven Weapons and Armour[]
(I noticed this and the next few in the "Articles to be merged" category and am putting these issues here hopefully to be resolved as we have time.) Looks like these should be merged. We might could even just delete the "Armory" page and move the pictures over as it is poorly written. --Bitterhand (talk) 15:32, July 2, 2018 (UTC)
Both have actually been removed. The latter article is superior but contains nothing that Weapons doesn't have. One special image from Elven armory has been moved to Weapons. HiddenVale -
TalkPage July 2, 2018 (UTC)
Flet and Talan[]
These are the same thing; just titled in different languages. Can't see any reason for that. --Bitterhand (talk) 15:32, July 2, 2018 (UTC)
Merged; "Flet" deleted. HiddenVale -
TalkPage July 2, 2018 (UTC)
Origin of Dragons and Dragons[]
Personally I don't see any reason to have a separate page for the speculative origins of something. In any case we don't have pages for the origins of Balrogs, Great Eagles, etc. --Bitterhand (talk) 15:32, July 2, 2018 (UTC)
Merged into a new section at Dragons. HiddenVale -
TalkPage July 2, 2018 (UTC)
Silvan Elves and Wood-elves[]
These articles have been nominated for merging long before I became an admin. I am surprised it has a {{Merge}} tag on one article, but has no open discussion here in the forum. As for myself, I vote on merging these two articles, as they are basically the same thing, only that one is in Elvish name and the other is in the Westron translation. Also, with The Hobbit films being such a massive hit, the article should be thoroughly updated and cleaned-up. Your thoughts? - Darkchylde • Talk • Contribs 16:06,3/9/2015
- Agreed, there is no such group of elves as the wood elves, unless you are to apply the definition to all elves who happen to live in a wood. Caspoi (talk) 15:53, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
- Clear case for Merging here. Amontadillo (talk) 15:50, January 3, 2018 (UTC)
- Hang On a Minute. A merge is probably the correct way to go about this, but the two articles have information that contradict each other. I've never found the Elves a particularly interesting part of Tolkien's cosmology, so I won't be of too much help here, but I propose someone rewrite Silvan Elves, making sure all the good information from Wood-elves is incorporated into it, and then merge Wood-elves. Jeff (talk·stalk) 00:37, January 4, 2018 (UTC)
- If nobody beats me to it I'll take a crack at a rewrite for "Silvan Elves" when I have a bit more time (probably tomorrow) and do my best to incorporate the best information from both existing articles. Someone else would have to deal with deleting the old article/completing the merge though, as I don't seem to have the permissions for that? (Or maybe I'm just being too blind to find the button).Amontadillo (talk) 03:10, January 5, 2018 (UTC)
- Alright, I've rewritten the article, included the info from Wood-elves, and added a few citations for it. Would be great if someone could double-check and then complete the merge. :) Amontadillo (talk) 23:45, January 5, 2018 (UTC)
- Merged into Silvan Elves. HiddenVale -
TalkPage 03:52, July 2, 2018 (UTC)
Dwarven weapons and Dwarven Weapons and Armour[]
Seems pretty self-explanatory to me. Both articles are describing the same thing. --Bitterhand (talk) 01:32, July 2, 2018 (UTC)
Ponto Baggins and Ponto Baggins I[]
Same case as above; these are the same person. --Bitterhand (talk) 01:32, July 2, 2018 (UTC)
Bow and Arrow[]
These two articles should be merged into one article known as Bows and Arrows--DarkLantern (talk) 09:17, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
- I mean, does either of them really need an article at all? It seems similar to the frequently brought up example of having an article for "rabbit" or "beard" or whatever in the articles for deletion section. However, if they must stay, then yes, they should absolutely be Merged. Amontadillo (talk) 15:25, January 3, 2018 (UTC)
Gundabad Orc General and List of unnamed original characters of the books and films[]
If I remember correctly, there was already a discussion about this, as this character is already in the list of unnamed characters. Apparently there was another page created for him, though, that seems to me like it should either be deleted or merged into the list. --Bitterhand (talk) 20:52, June 26, 2018 (UTC)
The Orc General article has been deleted; info on that character already exists in the List. HiddenVale -
TalkPage 00:01, June 27, 2018 (UTC)