Dor Firn-i-Guinar or the Land of the Dead that Live was a land in the southern Ossiriand so named after Beren and Lúthien after their return to life by the Eldar.


It was specifically located around the river Adurant east of the Gelion and well known for being the region surrounding Tol Galen[1] where Beren and Lúthien lived again after being released from the Halls of Mandos until their final deaths.


Before Beren and Lúthien arrival

Being a part the Ossiriand, this country was no doubt originally inhabited by the Nandor[2][3] and their later related brethren the Laiquendi, the Green-elves after the death of their lord Denethor in the First Battle of Beleriand.[4] The extent of the Elven population was probably sparse and hidden at this time.

After Beren and Lúthien arrival

Some time around FA 469 having been granted a second but mortal life at the behest of Manwë under Eru, Beren and Lúthien returned to Middle-earth from the Halls of Mandos and settled on the isle of Tol Galen in the southern Ossiriand. It was from this time that the Eldar began to call the area Dor Firn-i-Guinar 'Land of the Dead that Live'. This news spread amongst the Laiquendi and the couple was regarded in high honour. Dior, the son of Beren and Lúthien was born in this country. After Beren recovered the Nauglamír and the Silmaril within it after the Battle of Sarn Athrad, it was said and sung that Lúthien had wore it around her neck and therefore was envisioned a great beauty in Middle-earth. Afterwards, the land had become a fair and beautiful place and shown with a light and beauty like that only seen in Valinor[5] and apparently remained so until the final deaths of Beren and Lúthien and its destruction after War of Wrath.[6]


Dor Firn-i-Guinar was Sindarin for 'Land of the Dead that Live'.[7]


  1. The Silmarillion (inside cover), "Map of Beleriand and the Lands to the North"
  2. The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Chapter III: "Of the Coming of the Elves and the Captivity of Melkor"
  3. The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Chapter XIV: "Of Beleriand and its Realms"
  4. The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Chapter X: "Of the Sindar"
  5. The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Chapter XXII: "Of the Ruin of Doriath"
  6. The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Chapter XXIV: "Of the Voyage of Eärendil and the War of Wrath"
  7. The Complete Guide to Middle-earth
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