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^^ It's quite different from Middle-Earth.

Maybe.

And does that make us bad or good? As I said before here, I do good, or at least try to do good by my own conscious. Was adopting a humane society rat who no one wanted because he had a terrible scar and a habit of attacking other rats bad because I did it by my own choice and not because God told me to? Were all those donations I did for fighting climate change bad because I didn't do them out of fear of going to hell, but fear of earth BECOMING hell?

Well, like Radagast the Brown, I'm more of an animal person then a people person. So if that's what they get in Arda, I'll take that.

Well, if there is a god, which I doubt, I think we should learn. Authority is meant to be questioned. Otherwise, what are we?

Except that argument falls flat when the Timeless Halls were created first and are perfect. Showing that good CAN exist without evil. So why not make the timeless halls, and the Timeless Halls alone? That's like the argument "Why not just make Heaven, and Heaven alone" when it was already perfect and proof that good CAN exist without evil.

Then why make something if it's going to get messed up?

That's something written by humans.

But those scriptures were written by humans.

Thanks for the exquisite service at the Prancing Pony.

What I mean is, if Eru is infallible, then why would Melkor even go bad or exist? Because I don't think Eru is infallible. And Morgoth is proof of that.

A lot of propaganda paints people the same thing. That we should never question them. Especially those with authority. And authority is meant to be questioned.

Who couldn't love wargs?

To me, that sounds like God isn't who or what the bible says. To me, God is more fallible then we think. More like us.

I guess this relates to the larger issue, the problem of evil. If we take the bible into account, the question becomes a big issue. Because Heaven came before Earth. So why not stop there if it was already perfect? In Arda though, EVERYTHING, including the Undying Lands and the Halls of Mandos showed up via the song.

Therefore, my theory is that either Eru doesn't know everything since we probably never intended for there to be any discord. And in some ways, we're lucky to have Morgoth around. Because messing up Eru's hit single created all the flaws in the universe. But I think there's beauty in all these flaws. And if Morgoth hadn't messed up the hit single, I bet Arda would be VERY boring.

Other fantasies have addressed this as well. In Elder Scrolls, the mortal realm and evil exist because according to sources, pre creation was also really boring.

I think I'll take a look when I get the chance.

Because the Angmar war there goes and ends pretty much how Tolkien says it goes. They just added new characters.

Well, Tolkien never wrote heavy details about it. So all adaptations fill in the blank.

And the Angmar campaign comes the closest to all the campaigns to being canon.