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Thingol and Melian
Beren and Luthien
Fingolfin, Finarfin, Galadriel, Finrod and Huan the good Boi
Melkor and Sauron
Manwe and Varda
Earendil and Elwing
Maedhros and Maglor
Tuor and Idril
I didn’t write them by ranks btw, I like them all a lot.
@LegolasA1 he’ll say things that he said to Ar-Pharazon,Celebrimbor and the Nazgûls.
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You'll end up like Ar-Pharazon if you and Sauron share a philosophic talk.
No I'm not shipping. I'm just pointing out facts that Melkor and Sauron are really described as "fair" back in the books lol, and they probably need to cast someone good looking 🤭
Well, then studios should take more effort on doing it. Hollywood is not poor after all. If Amazon is willing to pour over 1 billion dollars for a Second Age Fanfiction, why won’t Warner or HBO are willing to pour billion of dollars to make a live action Silmarillion? The costs prove to be worth it when they do that in LOTR trilogy or Avatar. So I’m definitely very into the live action.
Moreover, they can still make a cohesive narrative for the Silmarillion, all the timelines and years of events are stated in the History of Middle Earth. Tolkien even left tons of notes and drafts which could be imaginative spaces for showrunners.
I’m fine with using animation for the War of Rohirrim, because the scale of the story is much smaller than the Silmarillion. Even a large story like GoT is produced with live action, why not the Silmarillion too?
125 Votes in Poll
@Tomnyoo You don’t need to implant themes through allegorical elements all the time. Tolkien built a world which is an escapism of the real one while it manages to convey timeless messages to everyone. Sometimes allegory is inevitable because inspirations are often based on something connect to the author’s life, but yes he avoids putting allegory most of the time.
But they really match each other even in canon. People just want to … “elevate” their bond a bit more. 😂
I’m joking lol. Though I wish there would be more vivid description of their relationship in Tolkien’s viewpoint
Re-continue his love life with Sauron
The Silmarillion - a set of historical events which involves the beginning of creation, that encompasses the subjects of good vs evil, life and death, fate and morality, the sufferings of life, unconditional love, the nature of evil, hope vs despair, God vs the Devil and many other themes based on Christian concepts.
According to Dagor Dagorath, which is basically Middle Earth’s version of the Apocalypse, Morgoth will return when the world, along with the Valar and the elves grow weary. Arda will be broken and changed drastically, and war will happen in Valinor. Turin will be the one who kill Morgoth personally. Feanor will break the Silmarils and rekindle the two trees of light again. Beleriand will emerge from the sea again and Arda will be reshaped by the second theme of Illuvatar, which is greater than the first, as men, elves and dwarves will all join the theme. I suppose this could sum up Arda’s and Morgoth’s ultimate end according to Tolkien’s vision.
The tale of Dagor Dagorath has been an exceptionally interesting topic, because it serves like the ultimate ending and beginning which Tolkien has envisioned for everything which exists in Middle Earth. You may try to learn it from Nerd of the Rings in YouTube, I think he makes a detailed explanation over this topic.
I enjoy both The Hobbit and Lotr trilogies. They are like overall 8-9/10 in my opinion. Of course in some aspects they could have been better. Like the visuals and pacing of The Hobbit, and the characterisation in Lotr (I don't like how Frodo is being meek, or how Faramir and Denethor is almost completely opposite to their portrayal in the books). But I don't think there's any fantasy adaptions can ever take over their places in my heart.
@Godzillavkk I know, I just hope Amazon would have treated this subject in a better perspective.
I'm sorry for making a mistake about Isildur's actor. I just made a research and the actor is actually European.
Please don't misunderstand me. What I mean "reason" is the original lores and elements that Tolkien put into his worldview, while "madness" means refusing to stay faithful to it. It is definitely a lose lose situation to the series, the books and the audience. And I don't think it helps with supporting diversity either.
@FH2104 I don't mean that diversity is a bad thing. But I think Hollywood has been working with it wrongly for the past few years. Just like casting a black and tan person in The Little Mermaid and Snow White, when these two princesses are meant to be white in original tales.
Back In ROP, the casting choice is illogical too. Why would some Harfoots turns out to be black? Why is Tar-Mariel black while her cousin (Ar-Pharazon) is white? And why is Isildur tan and non-european in the story? Not mentioning that Aragorn is turned into black too in the MTG.
So just like Gandalf once said: When did the wise abandon reason for madness?
@Ar-Zigûr Thanks for the explanation, Amazon should have made some proper background information over these cases, instead of choosing their cast in the name of diversity.
Casting black people as Harfoot/Hobbits is a bad choice too, because this will never happen in Tolkien's lore.