All posts by Lanthanum12

If we are going with canon, than Goldberry and Tom Bombadil

If we are going with any, Maeglin + Sauron for sure!!

These are beautiful! Though I don't know if I can comment on any of these fairly since my Glorfindel design is very different

I have An Encyclopedia of Tolkien, but haven't read a lot of it

I am pretty sure that Sauron is described as being a literal eye which is not accurte

Villains: Sauron, the Nazgul, Gollum

Valar: Nienna and Vaire

Elf: Maeglin!

Hobbit: Lobelia

Dwarf: Narvi

Also I love Anglachel and Brandir despite humans and swords not being included!

Favorite book: Silm

Favorite adaptation: Lay of Leithian

I am glad the book helped you, I am so sorry that it happened, we are here for you!!

The Nazgul do have souls and they have an emotional range. Quite a good one!

@Aiedaeil I am so pleased to hear that!! He needs all of the hugs!

I read Of Maeglin!

I think that would be a very interesting idea! It would have to be in an alternate universe since they were killed in the eruption of Mount Doom. They would be vulnerable to death now which would change things.

@Aiedaeil I don't know as much about Saruman, I'm sorry

Letter 246 touches upon interactions between the Nazgul and Frodo. It makes clear that the Nazgul are loyal to Sauron and would give up the ring to him.

Then there is this quote from Unfinished Tales which also shares that the Nazgul are completely loyal and the best choice for Sauron's task.

These are the closest pieces of text that I know of to what you are describing. If someone has something better please tell me! (I want to know everything about the Nazgul!!)

@Aiedaeil

@HiddenVale Thank you very much!! :D

That means a lot for me to hear!

Okay now for my ideas for the show! I want to see characters for all of the nine and have their relationships expanded on!

I think that perhaps a show that switched around from different perspectives on the War would be really interesting.

@HiddenVale @Mitth'raw'nuruodo3 From my understanding, The Nazgul are enslaved by the Ring but have some freedom to make their own choices so long as they don't disobey Sauron. Reading the Readers Companion and Hunt for the Ring give away a lot of character that the books leave out. They display a lot of emotion in Hammond's and Scull's Reader's Companion in particular. (I LOVE THE READER'S CAMPANION!! READ THE NAZGUL PARTS OF IT! IT'S A MUST READ FOR NAZGUL FANS!)

But even in the books we see them have dialog like Khamul with Farmer Maggot.

This is a really good passage from one of Tolkien's writings saved at the Marquette archives and published in the Readers Companion:

The Nazgul are clearly shown plotting and planning. Khamul is even capable of making mistakes.

Witch King is uncertain about what to do and has to debate his choices.

There's also a lot of words related to emotions such as: desiring, elated, alarmed, angry, uncertain. They couldn't stop searching for the Ring but they have their own minds that can reason about the best way to do it.

TLDR; The Nazgul don't have a choice when it comes to following Sauron's will but they have a choice on how they actually carry will out.

I agree with keeping the Witch King bad. I think that he should be complex but I don't need Witch King tragic backstory.

There is some textual evidence that not all of the Nazgul had evil intentions at first:

"And one by one, sooner or later, according to their native strength and to the good or evil of their wills in the beginning, they fell under the thralldom of the ring that they bore and under the domination of the One,"

'to the good or evil of their wills' is key here. So having a wraith or two with some tragedy to their story wouldn't be canon breaking.

The Witch King having a very tragic backstory isn't a choice I'm making in my stories about the Nazgul. (Some bad things happen to him but it's not why he became evil)

Sauron is described as adoring Morgoth in the beginning, actually!

An eye is Sauron's symbol because it representations his ever watchful gaze on Middle-earth

In the books he had a body, in one of Tolkien's letters he described him as taller then a man but not gigantic and that he should be thought of as quite terrible. He lost his ability to take on a 'fair form' when he drowned in the Fall of Numenor. He was also able to shape shift into a wolf, vampire, serpent etc (at least in the first age, we don't have any additional information about his shape shifting abilities in the third apart from what I already mentioned iirc)

I hope this is helpful in some way to you!! :D

(I know, I just got confused and was typing Nazgul because that's what was on my brain and didn't think to check

@Aiedaeil No, he is not annoying, he is one of the most wonderful!! /j

(I don't blame your Vala oc!)

@Titansbiggestfan123 Ahh yeah, names can be tricky!! Can you tell me your storyline?

@Titansbiggestfan123 Oooh Ent ocs!! I don't see a lot of those so I think that's very good!!

Do you have a name for the Witch King? I go with the MERP name, Murazor!