Morgoth

At the end of the War of Wrath Morgoth gets cast into the void by Ëonwë, Christopher Tolkien later removes this reference from the silmarillion for some reason but that’s irrelevant. My question is how did Morgoth get cast into the Viod? Like did Ëonwë duel him like Fingolfin did or did he just through Aulë’s chains over him?

One tossed out option for the Ring at the COE, was to bring the ring to Valinor to be guarded by the Valar. What do you think would happen if that option was tried?

For me, I don't think it would last. If Melkor/Morgoth could go bad, ANY Valar could go bad. And the last thing Arda needs is another Valar going bad. I'd even argue that Eru could go bad.

Okay, very easy inference considering Morgoth is the only Vala nasty enough to make something like that, but, evidence please?

I mean they are both evil but why hadn't Sauron acted like Saruman after Morgoth fell. Why didn't he do his own thing. I mean you could see all of Sauron's doings are just continuations of his master's plans.

I think that the Teleri and Vanyar that stayed in Valinor might have a prejudice against the Grey Elves and Noldor, based on the fact that the Noldor left Aman, among other things. They could possibly view the Grey Elves and Noldor as lesser than themselves, based on the fact that they had left Valinor, and were therefore 'tainted' by the wars and strife of Middle-Earth.

As we know, Elves aren't always very kind to each other, like when Fëanor massacred the Teleri, and then burned the ships that he killed them for, or when Celegorm wanted to force Lúthien's hand in marriage. Therefore, I do not think it would be unreasonable to guess that the Vanyar and Teleri might harbor a grudge towards the Grey Elves and Noldor for the First Kinslaying.

I know that they live in Valinor, the blessed realm, and so one might think that it would be impossible to hate someone whilst in Valinor. However, Fëanor began to do so, even before Melkor marred him.

To their point of view, they're just living their lives, then suddenly a bunch of nattering stupid-heads arrive and take up on their land. They live like ten minutes and are dumber then rocks. Then a bunch of them start attacking them from the north and east. Then in the elves greatest time of need during the war with Morgoth, they most if them just go "Um never mind we don't feel like being with you," And just abandon them.

Then of course all the ring wraiths from men and then the dude who wouldn't destroy the ring after they killed Sauron's finger. So the fact that after all that they sent hundreds of men to die in helms deep is actually F'ing insane. Men don't really deserve the golden age after Lotr.

So i am currently reading Silmarillion. The teen Glaurung showed up but then i had a question. As I remember, Melkor didn't have the power to create life; that's why he corrupted Elves into Orcs. But what is the origin of the dragons then? Did Iluvatar create evil creatures? If not, Melkor corrupted them from which creature? Or did Melkor create life?

For this scenario, Sauron (from during the War of Elves and Sauron) fights Morgoth (from during the War of Wrath, at his weakest), 1-on-1. Do you think Sauron would win? And if so, could he have beaten Morgoth while Morgoth was stronger?

First, a bit of background: Tom Bombadil is the oldest being in Arda, and is probably the most powerful. Tom Bombadil once said to Frodo, "Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside." suggesting that he was already an inhabitant Arda when Yavanna made the first growing things (trees, flowers, bushes, etc). He also has unparalleled control over his domain, exceeding that of Sauron, and even Melian and Thingol of old. He met Frodo and company when they were ensnared by a powerful and malevolent Huorn, who Tom calls "Old Man Willow". He has many different names, and possibly a different personality to go with it. The Elves call him Iarwain Ben-adar, which literally means, "old person without a father"(Iarwain means old-young, Ben means without, and adar means father). The Dwarves called him Forn, which means "Eldest", and the Men called him Orald, which means "Elder". Now, knowing this, there are several theories that say who Tom Bombadil is, and what his origin story is.

Tom is a Valar

One theory is that Tom is a Valar, specifically Aulë. I'm guessing that why people think that is because Tom is so powerful he must be a Valar. And Goldberry must be Yavanna, because she likes nature, and might even be able to influence it. But Aulë is the Smith, the Lord of Metalworking, while Tom Bombadil seems to be more into nature than weaponry. In fact, we never even see him touch metal, and the house which he lives in might not even have metal in it. And, Goldberry can't be Yavanna, because Goldberry is the "River-Daughter", while Yavanna was created directly by Eru Ilúvatar. As for the other Valar, no other Valar have the right skill set and interests as Tom. The closest we come to seeing one is with Oromë, but Oromë is the Great Rider, while we never see Tom riding on a horse, only Fatty Lumpkin, his pony, whom he seldom rides anyway. If he was Oromë, I think we would see a lot more hose action. Not to mention that all the Valar are in Valanor.

Tom is a Maiar

Ah yes, a theory that actually holds some water. Some think that Tom Bombadil is just a Maiar that doesn't live in Valinor. But I don't think that is true, because even Sauron, who was originally one of the most powerful Maia (Mairon), was under the influence of the One Ring, while the Ring had no grip on Tom's mind. Also, even while Sauron and Melian had very good control over their lands (Melian's Girdle, and Sauron literally lives in a realm of fire where the sun never shines), none of them can even rival the way that Tom is in his kingdom. At least this theory has some form of logic to it, unlike the last one. All of the Maiar are likely in Valinor. Also, if he were a Maia, he would be more influential in Arda, because the other Maiar who were in Arda were extremely influential (Sauron and Melian).

Tom is Father Nature

This theory isn't half-bad. The theory says that Tom is like an embodiment of Arda, kind of like a father nature. It makes sense, too. Tom is the master of his domain, and Galdor once said, 'Power to defy our enemy is not in him, unless such power is in the earth itself. And yet we see that Sauron can torture and destroy the very hills.' suggesting that Tom is connected to the earth. Every part of it fits perfectly into this notion. The only reason it isn't my favorite is because of how sound this next theory is.

Tom the embodiment of the Music of the Ainur

This theory is my favorite. The theory states that Tom Bombadil is the music of the Ainur, put into a body. The theory works perfectly. It would explain why he has such a huge music aptitude, as the Music is inside of him, woven into his very being. It would also describe how the beasts and beings of the Old Forest obey him, as "his songs are stronger songs," a direct quote from Tom himself. There are also linguistic clues that say this. When Frodo asks Goldberry who Tom is, she replies saying, "He is", in the common speech. But if she had been speaking Elvish, she would have said 'Eä', which is what the universe of Tolkien's legendarium is called. And, if Tom was made from the Music of the Ainur, then, as Ungoliant is a lot like the anti-Tom, it would make sense that Ungoliant would be made from the Discord of Melkor (Morgoth).

One last note: Tom Bombadil does not have his own origin. Tolkien did not make one for him. Tolkien wrote in one of his letters, “even in a mythical Age there must be some enigmas, as there always are. Tom Bombadil is one of them (intentionally)."

Fëanor is usually considered a villain. Most people see him as a fiend who slaughtered hundreds of innocent Elves, left his half-brother and allies stranded defenseless. But I see him as an Elf who lost everything, and went crazy as a result of that. An innocent victim of mind control, who made the choices that he made through the result of clever and malicious influence. My job today is to get you to see him the way that I do.

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Fëanor was born to Finwë, who was King of the Noldor Elves, and Míriel. But giving birth to Fëanor took so much energy from Míriel that she died. So as soon as Fëanor was born, he lost his mother. Finwë married again, and married Indis, who Fëanor disliked. But Fëanor was a skillful artisan, and in fact was the most skillful ever. And so through years of hard work and extreme effort, with all of his skill and expertise, made a Silmaril, which captured the light of the Trees of Valinor. Morgoth, who was then called Melkor, saw the Silmarils, and coveted them. And so Melkor went to Finwë's house, killed him, and took the Silmarils. Fëanor loved both dearly and extremely. So let's count, shall we? His mother died before he met her, he lived as a child with a stepmother and half-brother who he disliked, his father was killed, and the Silmarils (which had an effect on the mind much like the Rings of Power) were taken away. He had lost everything dear to him.

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He then gathered all of the Noldor, claimed their Kingship, and he and his sons swore an oath to always chase after the Silmarils, even if Eru Illuvatar were to stand in the way. And so they sailed to Middle-Earth, and assaulted Morgoth. But Morgoth sent out Balrogs against Fëanor and the Elves, and so they fought. And Fëanor was killed by the Lord of Balrogs, Gothmog. Let's look. He, in his grief and wrath swore an irreversible oath that directly affected one's thoughts to make it impossible to go against the oath, even if one desired not to.

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Sure, he slaughtered the Teleri, and left most of the Noldor stranded, he was not thinking clearly, and was probably driven mad by the grief and anger of everything he had taken away. Just remember the rash things you do when consumed by the fire of anger.

One of the Silmarils was taken by Beren from the crown of Morgoth, and was swallowed by Carcharoth, who later was slain and slew Huan. Then the Silmaril came to King Thingol, and he went to the dwarves to set it into a great dwarven treasure called Nauglamír. But the dwarves were seduced by the beauty of the Silmaril, and slew Thingol for it. It was then set into the stars by the Valar.

Another was taken by Maglor, and it burned his hand, and so he threw it into the sea.

The last Silmaril was obtained by Maedhros, and it burned his hand with such searing pain, that he threw it and himself into a fiery pit.

In The Hobbit, Thorin mentions the Arkenstone, which the dwarves had found in the deep, delving and mining.

My thought process here is that the Arkenstone might be a Silmaril, that the dwarves had found mining in the fiery pit that Maedhros cast himself into (after the fire burned out, of course). It is described much like the Silmarils, and has the same power of corrupting the owner, much like a Silmaril. This is shown when Thorin found out about what Bilbo did to the Arkenstone, and only speaks to Bilbo when he realizes he is about to die and will not get to speak to the hobbit again.