Why did my poll get deleted? I had a poll that asked which warrior would win and it had Ancalagon, Saruman, the King of the Dead, Thorondor, Ungoliant, and Durin’s Bane and now it’s gone. Why?
Why did my poll get deleted? I had a poll that asked which warrior would win and it had Ancalagon, Saruman, the King of the Dead, Thorondor, Ungoliant, and Durin’s Bane and now it’s gone. Why?
@Atlas D. Aeradon No, not "all" of your polls generated discussion. Discussion is where commenters are engaging with one another- not merely commenting opinions, which is equivalent to the simple act of casting a vote, almost. In discussion, a matter is addressed, and considered verbally.
To answer your question from 17hrs ago: Yes! Especially if you use punctuation.
The reason Fandom keeps polls from being editable is that, an admin could sneakily change whatever they wanted in the original prompt, and thus ruin the meaning of the votes that everyone sees.
@HiddenVale ”equivalent to the simple act to casting a vote”? What the heck does that mean? If they were one in the same thing, then there would be no point in commenting, would there? Commenting opinions can start discussions which has happened. Even if it didn’t, I can’t control or force anyone to comment on my posts or polls nor would I want to.
I do use punctuation, so I don’t know what you’re getting at there.
You delete my poll because of a “poOR SuBjeCT LiNE” and yet a post about Melkor and freakin my little pony which has NOTHING to do with Lord of the Rings has been up for 17 hours and only has two comments, one of which is yours. What ridiculous rules.
@Atlas D. Aeradon It means that, for a comment to say something like, "Morgoth for sure!", or, "I choose Elrond", and nothing more, as an answer to the prompt, is equivalent to one simply voting "Morgoth" or "Elrond". But, when someone's comment is also answering why they voted as they did, that's where we begin to encounter "discussion" as defined above, because to state one's reason for a vote is to address / verbally consider the topic. And those are the comment that are most often replied to by others, brewing discussion Understand? This is all the mentality behind the Guidelines policy that began this thread. The likelihood of discussion is raised by adding a prompt for giving a reason. As FH2104 already said, this is a matter of adding words that more likely invite discussion. Or, as WizardWarrior put it, provoke discussion.
I mentioned punctuation since you'd left it out of that question I was answering. I know you use it, though.
@HiddenVale if someone simply commented “I chose Elrond” and add nothing else, then that’s on THEM, not because of my post/poll. They decided to comment that. As I said earlier, I can’t control what they comment or if they decide to comment at all. Even if I add “and why” to the subject line, there’s no guarantee that people add anything else.
@HiddenVale and NOW you decided to delete the Melkor-my little pony post. You’re something else 😂. What about the Song of Thorin post? That’s been up for four days with no comments on that. Are you going to delete that too? If so, it seems to me like you’re picking and choosing when to do your job as an admin unless you have something against me personally 😂.
@Atlas D. Aeradon This Guideline policy has nothing to do with free will or guarantees. Of course commenters are choosing what to comment. Did I "force" any of your comments on this thread? The area of adding words to invite or provoke discussion is a matter of likelihoods. The one who's overseen these discussion posts for four years knows the general patterns of post-responses. Understand?
And yes, it's indeed reached four days. Good eye!
@HiddenVale 🤦🏾♂️ I’m not implying guidelines have control over free will. What kind of dumb comment is that? I’m saying that it seems like you have a problem with what people are commenting instead of my posts/polls.
So, you deleted the Song of Thorin post too? I guess you really are nitpicking when to do your job. How hypocritical and pathetic. You might not want to be so easily manipulated. Someone could use that against you in the future.
@Atlas D. Aeradon I'm not sure you're endearing yourself hugely.
@Atlas D. Aeradon You're stumbling into Policy #2 now. The relation between comments and your polls/posts has been the topic of this whole thread. Take a deep breath, cool down, and review all that was explained before now, connecting the dots. The most important points are those on how extra words are more effective in inviting discussion, specifically for A vs B and What's-your-favorite, as known through the last years' patterns- a different layer of the situation than one's own decision-making.
All this morning, I've been engaging on this thread by accessing it through the notifications on the Fandom app, as opposed to through the DP feed, which I always peruse later in the day- for which reason I hadn't marked the Song of Thorin's expiration yet, till you pointed it out. Commendable job, beating me to it!
All HiddenVale is trying to say is that a poll title that helps provoke discussion increases the likelihood of a good discussion. Of course you can have a good discussion and still have a boring title, but that's not the point. The point is that the guidelines are there to try and increase the likelihood of having as good of a discussion as possible. You may think it's silly, but the rules still remain.