Hey guys, right now I'm reading The Hobbit for the first time and I was wondering what happens to Erebor after the end of this book because I can’t remember if it was mentioned ever again in the LOTR movies.

Does anyone know where I can find the old Lord of the Rings animations?

Hello there! I've been here before but never said anything, but now I have a question:)

I'm reading The Silmarillion now for the second time - cause it's well... very complicated... but I love it!

((Spoiler-alert for those who havent read it))

I've heard someone call the destruction of the lamps the 'first fall', and immediately thought of the destruction of the trees as the second fall of Eä.

Right after the lamps are "dead" and there is this destroying fire pouring all over the earth (Quenta, 1st chapter) - it says "...So that the first design of the Valar were never after restored."

And there are more times where there are creations of the Valar that can never again be made. So we have the lamps, then the trees... but what about the silmarils? They weren't destroyed but were lost, and could never again be made.

I think my question is more like... two vague ideas: Could the first time the Silmarils were kept away from the valar be like a third fall? And what does this "fall" actually mean in the world of Eä? I know in a christian view - since Tolkien himself was a christian - there is the fall with the tree and Adam and Eve. Could that be related, like a lot of things in Tolkien's world are sort of mingled with the christian religion? I'd like to hear your thoughts! :)

(Sorry if the English isn't great)

Hey guys just a random question that came to my mind. Have you ever thought about the Dagor Dagorath as the last battle of a depressed or menthal ill person with him or herself? The different ages would show the different moods that person was in and no one knows what the battle will be like and if they're really in it when it takes place. No one will also know if this is really the last battle. If it ends good well it ends good and if not well that could mean suizid? Let me hear your thoughts about it :)

What did you think were the worst and best changes that the movies made (LOTR or Hobbit, either of them)?

For me the worst change was probably the ignorance of the Ents.

The best... that's a bit more tricky, but I think the Paths of the Dead were a bit too 'meh' and confusing and anticlimactic in the book. I like that they made them a bit more exiting (though I think they should have kept them a bit more accurate)

Tolkein never did reveal much about what Mordor was like after Sauron, save that after Sauron's death, Elassar granted Mordor to Sauron's freed slaves. Tolkein also never went into much detail about Sauron's slaves either. So since we know very little about these elements, the best we can do is guess and make theories. Here are my theories.

The Kingdom of Nurn was the successor nation to Mordor. Slaves who had only recently been enslaved were allowed to return home, but those who had lived their whole lives in the shadows of Mordor chose to stay. I'd imagine that Sauron's slaves came from every human nation in Middle-Earth, or had ancestry going back to the human nations. I also assume that they probably intermarried and mated with eachother, creating a new ethnicity of Men, Nurneans. In other words, they have resemblance to the multi skinned people of the Jacksonverse Dale and Laketown.

In terms of culture, I doubt any Nurneans would have any familiarity with the cultures of where their ancestors came from, so I'd imagine that Nurnean culture would be a new arrival in Middle-Earth. Since these were freed slaves who were probably treated in apalling conditions, they probably had a lot of relief aid from the Reunited Kingdom and Rohan in order to get at least medicine, education, etc. Some elements from Sauron's Mordor may have stayed though. Sauron would still have needed roads in order for trade to come to and from Nurn and Gorgoroth, so those probably stayed in order for trade to continue. Abandoned Fortresses were probably rebuilt into cities, towns, or villages.

In terms of actual culture culture, I'd imagine that Nurneans were a friendly, but somber people. All their lives, they have known nothing but darkness and evil. Though they are not evil themselves, they are still creatures of the dark. It's taken them longer to get used to sunlight being more common. Most Nurneans were likely introverted or socially awkward, maybe even similar to modern day people who like the gothic style. In terms of architecture, I'd imagine that since these ex-slaves were forced to build dark and gothic buildings, Nurnean architecture would also look dark and gothic, but would look at least a bit more welcoming. After all, this is all they've known, they've just modified it to be something good.

I'd imagine their military would have resemblance to that of the Black Numenroians, with elements of Rhunic, Haradric, and Khanish armor as well. Their armor is dark, black, grey, navy blue, maybe even some crimson red. This makes them look frightening on the battlefield, and thair fighting style was probably an amalgam of various mannish fighting styles. Their weapons are probaly similar to the weapons of that of Easterlings, Haradrim, Variags, Black Numenorians. Their not pretty and look terrifying, but they do their job. And since horses were rare in Mordor, I'd imagine that either the army was all infantry, or the cavalry rode Wargs and other dark creatures found in Nurn.

In terms of poltics, I assume that like most nations of Men, Nurn is a monarchy. The first King or Queen was probably a senior slave with leadership skills. After all, in real life, slaves had leaders among them, even if the leaders liked or their masters. But that's as far as I can predict in terms of politics. I can just as easily see the heir to the throne being chosen by birth or by merit, since that's how the first King or Queen rose to power. I also don't know if this would happen in Tolkein's media, but if I could have my way, I'd also establish that women can become ruling queen and have more say then any other human nation.

So that's what I can make out of the vagueness of what Toklein wrote. What about you?

I have seen that there has been some previous discussion on this topic, but I'd like to bring it up again.

First off, I am a massive fan of Tolkien's works, and many of those who are pushing for this nasty content (they want nudity and who-knows-what) in Amazon's show are more interested in series like Game of Thrones, which is actually a sort of fouling up of what Tolkien stood for and created. Worst off, nothing like this has ever happened in the history of any adaption of Tolkien's works. Even the Middle-Earth games, though violent, didn't have any perverted content in it. This is what you get when the people who own the rights to Middle-Earth get greedy and license it for millions to a multi-billion dollar company that already makes money off of a bunch of illicit materials. I just hope Amazon wakes up or that the Tolkien family or whoever own Middle-Earth just says "enough!" This was a series written by a Christian man who wanted to have clean, well-made fantasy. Don't spoil it.

Who do you think you would belong to in middle earth (obviously of the human race)? It can be based on characteristics or looks? I think I would be part of the House of haleth considering they are reclusive and enjoy more solitude than a great concourse of men. But my swarthy skin would put me as a haradrim or easterling but I think Tolkien does mention the haladin having some swarthy skinned people, or was it the beorians? They were also shorter than the hadorians and beorians and I count as short compared to northern and eastern europeans.

What sort of magical powers do Dwarves have? It seems like Elves all have a fair degree of magic power, if nothing else because all of their realms seem to be almost unnaturally beautiful compared to other parts of Middle-Earth. I was wondering if the Dwarven race had any similar power.

I absolutely LOVE Lord of The Rings and I have seen every movie and read all the books including The Hobbit. I know every single character and my favourite is Aragon because he's sort of the star if you don't include Frodo and Gandalf, but also because he's brave and you know.

I have a new wiki too, https://jfrl.fandom.com/wiki/JFRL_Wiki# story writing and more. Check it out!

Who else loves Lord of The Rings?

What are your guys thoughts on a video game production company making a LOTR/Hobbit series of games in a similar style of maybe Skyrim/fallout or maybe a rehash of the older games from 2003-2004?

So.. My Mom I asked her what he favorite scene was and she said she likes that scene in The 2 Towers when Gollum is slapping a fish on a rock in the forbidden pool... ._.

I gotta admit that was kinda funny tho....

Hello fellow LOTR fans you can call me Koko!!! UwU

I have watched 2 of the movies ( The Fellowship Of The Ring, The 2 Towers )

And read 2 of the books ( Same as the movies desc )

I'm currently reading The Return Of The King because I usually read the books before I watch the movie because yay. []~(￣▽￣)~*

Now I have one question for you guys to answer....

Can you guess who I simp for??

Bet you can't answer correctly TwT

( BTW I also watched The Hobbit I just forgot to put that there :( )

So besides a lotr series set in the second age, Amazon is making an mmo game for lotr set before the events of lotr. Where do you guys want it to be set in? I’m hoping for an mmo set in the second age so I can explore numenor, although I would like better one in the first age but I know that’s likely not happening.

How many of you can remember the full inscription on the One Ring WITHOUT looking it up online, finding it in the book, or going to the movie?

Media mention of Sea Of Nurnen on an album on Tribe Records "Reflections In The Sea Of Nurnen" (TRCD 4009, ©1975)

The modern world seems not to fit with the ages. Even if we ignore the scientific reasons and only use the known events to "forecast" what happened in the 3k yrs after the FO, there will still be a lot of contradictions: Why would there be two ethnics (English and Shire-Hobbit) be so similar in culture and so different in language? Since the years of the lamps to the FO(2-30000 yrs), there are not much changes to M-E(only changes to part of the coastline and the rising of some Mts.)

But in the 3000 years after there are much more changes(The whole "continent" technically broke into pieces!). What's more, most elves departed in the FO and much less would happen in M-E, and there should be many less changes to it!