Talk:Battle of Five Armies

victory for who?
'''The Battle of Five Armies. Victory for who?'''

I feel the results of the battle are a bit messy and not a simple victory or defeat. In both the book and film lore. Lets take a look..

Thorin was killed, the king of the lonley mountain- arguable a tactical victory for the Orc forces in the long run - Even if they lost the strategic objective of holding the Mountain. It births the begeing of the end for the Drawfs as a power player in Middle Earth.

The Men, Elves. remaining Drawfs and Bilbo get to split up the gold. But overall the loss of Throin and the heavy losses on the Drawf army is likley a larger loss to the West then gaining the gold.

A Pyrrhic victory ''at best. ''